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[wednesday_whimsy]

Ryan talking about the break up. After many, many times of reading, I've found some stuff to take comfort in. I do believe things will work out between all of them, and Pete. It has only been a week remember. They were very mature about the whole thing really. Good for them.

Ryan talking about the drugs. Now, it doesn't really matter what he says does it? Because I suspect the majority of people are going to say Yeah, right. Sure, they weren't yours whether they were or not. The fact is no one knows the truth unless they were in that room, so while I'm not being really naive about this, (people in bands do drugs, deal with it,) I do think it's plausible. Because it's Ryan Ross and he IS that faily.

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[buckle-berry.livejournal.com]

sorry your fandom is giving you kind of a hard time, bb. that's not the way it's supposed to work :(

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

berry! *clings* somedays i miss the carefree days of lotr fandom so much it hurts. :( bandom needs to calm the fuck down (maybe the drugs would help!)

harry potter tomorrow though! i can wrap myself up in it and be happy. remus! draco! ron♥hermione

[sullen-hearts.livejournal.com]

Hmmmm. Interesting to hear from him, anyway.

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

I don't think there's anything at all wrong with the first interview. It's clearly not something he did on a whim or just announced one day. He sat down with Spencer and they came to the same decision. I think it's admirable.

[sullen-hearts.livejournal.com]

I agree, and I also agree that he's been painted as the bad guy in so much of this that isn't his fault.

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

Him and Jon both. And I just don't see it. I think it's about time someone gave them a break and just let them get on with making music, since without that we wouldn't even know them anyway.

[sullen-hearts.livejournal.com]

Hopefully the music will speak for itself?

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

I think it will. But fans aren't exactly sane about this stuff. And you know what? I'm glad. The crazies can stay away. :D

[sullen-hearts.livejournal.com]

Exactly, exactly. I know from Libsdom that people take sides and become fucking nasty little brats about it. Let them stay out.

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

This is the first band break up I've ever cared about. I think I'm doing better than I thought I would with it. (Though it doesn't bode well that my dad is apparently still upset about The Beatles...)

[spvinter.livejournal.com]

Hi! *waves* I saw you've friended me? God knows why, cause I'm really not very entertaining, but hey! New friends! Here's me friending you back.

Also, thanks for linking that second article, I hadn't seen it yet. Man, Ryan has had a rough week, but I have got to say that I think he's handled this shit with a lot more class than many would have. He's pretty much been pointed out as the villain in this drama and still he's kept his cool, hasn't pointed fingers or been a drama queen. I was really surprised after the first article dropped, because I found it kinda sad, but reassuring when he said it was all about musical differences, it was a joint and amicable decision and they are still friends, but somewhere in there people found even more room to blame him. Hopefully people will give him the benefit of the doubt with this second one (call me naive!).

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

Hi! *waves back* I like new friends. :D

People always find a way to blame Ryan. I'm coming to the conclusion that the majority of fandom just enjoys hating him, which is extremely sad, because I don't believe he deserves it really. He may have done some stupid (and bad) things but so have other people in these bands (in his band even) and people seem content to forgive and forget. Ryan just gets another black mark against name and I find it rather ridiculous. What I'm most shocked at this week is everyone deciding to blame Jon to. Jon! People are weird.

[spvinter.livejournal.com]

Pretty much. I saw someone somewhere say that they'd bet that if it had been Brendon giving that first interview, saying the exact same things people would *handwave* forgive him and see the positive because he's a puppy! I have seen people actually say that they cannot possibly blame Brendon for the split because he is just so darned cute. Ryan is easier to hate because he's not as openly and obviously cute and charming as Brendon. I'm pretty much sure that they have all done stupid things (they are boys in a rock band who became famous at a very young age, of course they have all done stupid shit!) and I am sure that both Ryan and Brendon have a part in the issues between them, which, yeah, is why all the hate is just not fair.

The most hilarious thing about the blame against Jon is that from the day I joined this fandom, people have been raving about the awesome that is Jon Walker. He's so cool! He got Ryan to chill out and become a happy hippie! In fact they all became so much less emo and more fun with the addition of JWalk! I felt like laughing my ass off when I saw the first "Damn you Jon Walker and your chilled out happy hippie ways! You turned Ryan against his band!"

This whole thing has just made me so much more determined to see all this in a positive light. No one is to blame! They all did what they had to do to be happy! They are still friends and everything will be ok! :DDDDD

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

I didn't even think there was that much in that interview that needed forgiving. There are so many reasons Ryan's the way he is (and Brendon's the way he is), fandom seems to forget. They set these ridiculous standards and then get all judgmental when they end up behaving like 20 year old boys.

Jon Walker IS awesome. People are sooooo weird.

I think it will be a good thing in the end. We need to stay positive. :D

[spvinter.livejournal.com]

I didn't even think there was that much in that interview that needed forgiving.

I totally agree, but some people apparently found enough to be butthurt about.

That we do! If everything works out we get both a natural progression from Fever and one from Pretty. Odd, which will be awesome. And from a fandom perspective this situation has all the potential in the world for loads and loads of fic.

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

I agree. Especially about the fic. I can't seem to stop writing. :)

[spvinter.livejournal.com]

I haven't been this active in fandom since forever! I'm usually the lurking kind, but since the news hit I have been commenting left and right and even signed up for the bandom_hc challange, though god knows how that will go. I'm really bad at finishing fics that I start and even worse at writing with a time limit, but it sounded like fun! :D

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

I was going to sign up for that but I have so many other things to write, I think I'm just going to sit back and wait for the lovely fic to roll in. :D Can I ask what prompt you picked?

[spvinter.livejournal.com]

Sure! After much thought I decided to pick (what I thought was) an easy one: random Panic member is stalked by crazed fan but doesn't want to make a big deal out of it so he doesn't tell anyone until his current and/or former band members find out and resolve to put a stop to it. The plan is to make it post split with Ryan as the one being stalked, but man, plotting is HARD, yo. I've got a couple of scenes I know I want to write but no beginning or end or, you know, actual substance. :D

[jacqui-hw.livejournal.com]

Well if you ever want to brainstorm or anything.... :D That sounds interesting.

[spvinter.livejournal.com]

Thank you for the offer! If I manage to get a grasp on roughly where I'm going with this thing, I might take you up on it. :)